[Ryan1234]

Hi, sorry to visit an old post but looking for some advice. Do the 2020 Range Rover Evoques still have the same issues with the DPF? I was looking at ordering a new 2021 one but if they haven't fixed the previous problems with the DPF then I think I will pass.

 

[Jammy]

I specifically asked about the DPF filter before I ordered my new evoque and was told by the salesman that as long as I did a 20 minute journey a couple of times a month it would be fine. My brother had huge issues with his DPF in his vauxhall, but that was years ago. I am starting to worry a bit.

Veema can I ask if you have had any problems with the DPF?

 

[DKZ5745]

Hy @Ryan1234,

I am more or less a year into ownership, and due to the lockdowns, I have done far more short journeys than long ones (like a couple of miles per trip, so very short). I have had to have an interim oil service due to oil dilution, but that was covered under warranty. I have had no DPF warnings, and in control reports no problems.
Unless you specifically want diesel, you could always opt for the Petrol Hybrid which will give far better mpg than diesel anyway.

 

[Ryan1234]

Hi @DKZ5745

Thanks for your reply

Can I please ask what mileage you have covered over last year?

 

[DKZ5745]

I have done@ 4.5k I bought the car as an ex demonstrator so in total it’s done @ 13k.

 

[Bangor Mark]

I have done@ 4.5k I bought the car as an ex demonstrator so in total it’s done @ 13k.

This accurately reflects my experience, though I have only done 12k miles. PS,I love the car and cant wait for lock down to be limited to take a few "unnecessary" journeys.

 

[Doink]

Ryan to answer your original question no they haven't fixed the previous problems with the DPF, it's still sited that far away from the engine its in a different postcode so will never get hot enough to regen itself

 

[DKZ5745]

Although real life experience doesn’t seem to support that.

 

[XZ4]

I thought oil dilution was caused by failed DPF regens

 

[Col_C]

I thought oil dilution was caused by failed DPF regens

Only repeating what I've read elsewhere so feel free to correct me.....

• DPF requires 350c for passive regen to take place.
• DPF in Evoque is too far away to reach this temperature under normal driving conditions.
• Active regen (which raises temp to above 550c) is acheived by injecting diesel into the cylinders on the exhaust stroke.
• During that process some diesel will seep past the rings thus contaminating the oil (so even in a successful regen oil is diluted to some degree)
• If active regen is interupted (ie not completed successfully) then software attempts to repeat the process until completed - so repeated failed attempts results in higher oil dilution.
• Algorithms monitoring "driving style" determins how frequently an active regen is required.
• Typically active regen should occur every 250-300mls (shorter for frequent short journeys)
• Active regen requires speed to be held above 40mph for about 15mins without significant interuption.
• The cleaning process can continue for a while after the diesel injection has stopped if continuing to drive as the DPF cools.

 

[rencar]

Brilliant summary.

One of the many reasons I went for the P250. Great petrol engine and a little less complexity, with no Adblue top ups or oil dilution services typically being needed. Mpg isn’t brilliant, but acceptable.

As a comparison, the criteria for petrol engine filter regeneration is also a little easier to meet:

Petrol exhaust filter self-cleaning

Self-cleaning takes place when the engine is at its normal operating temperature and sufficient oxygen is present in the exhaust stream. In most situations, the exhaust filter will automatically self-clean without any driver intervention necessary.
Some driving conditions, e.g., repetitive cold starts or continuous full-load driving, may not provide sufficient opportunity to begin the exhaust filter self-cleaning automatically. When this occurs, the instrument panel displays the following warning lamps:

Amber: Exhaust filter self-cleaning is required. Driving steadily below 80 km/h (50 mph) for up to 15 minutes should clean the filter.
Green: Exhaust filter self-cleaning is complete.
Red: The exhaust filter is full. Engine power is reduced. Exhaust filter self-cleaning is required.

Or as has already been suggested, if not petrol only, consider the P300e, that forum members are rather liking as well!

 

[Col_C]

Yes actually had a look at the owners manual again and found this

Fortunately I've had no amber or red warnings so far, but neither have I noticed the green one telling me it's done a successful regen, anybody else noticed this?
(and there's another thread running on here looking for ways of knowing when it's in progress)

 

[Jonttt]

Probably tempting fate here but in 4 years and only 18k miles of mainly short journey’s with the very occasional longer journey thrown in we have experienced an average of 6k between oil changes (so basically annually based on our mileage with free interim changes) but zero DPF issues........I;ve never noticed a green light saying one has been completed successfully either....

 

[DKZ5745]

Not had any colours, green amber or red. Actually, I might have, but not noticed, I generally only look at the dash when approaching speed cameras.

 

[Biker]

Here is an example of 2 regens that took place, 2 days apart. And the day inbetween I did not drive at all.

The first one only took place after 30 minutes of driving (and also after journey 15 minutes earlier of roughly 150km) despite the sensor stating 7.99 or 8 (which means DPF full) No warning lights - nothing.
The second regen came after a 200km drive, but tank was under 1/3. Only after I filled up within 15 minutes it kicked in.

 

[James.Balbach]

Hi Folks

First of all I would like to say this thread has been incredibly informative !

I have a leased 2019 Range RoverEvoque with the 2.0 Diesel engine.
Only this evening when driving to the shops I had the dreaded DPF red warning light illuminate, no caution came on before hand. The cars journeys are average and it’s only covered 10k miles in 15 months. The cars performance also reduced significantly, I did the usual drive at 70mph for a while to see if I could clear it but to no avail.

I rang Range Rover assistance and a technician is coming to sort out the problem tomorrow morning.

My questions to you guys are

Will the fix be covered under warranty ?

I’ve also received a Oil change in 1000 miles on the dash which I can only imagine is due to the Oil Dilution, so could I ask for that to be changed under warranty ?

look forward to hearing back

many thanks
James

 

[DKZ5745]

Hi James. I haven’t received the DPF warning, which is amazing tbh as during this horrible lockdown my journeys have almost all been under 10 miles. Many just a couple of miles.
I did get an oil service required message, and when I contacted my dealer I was told this would be covered under warranty.
I hope this goes half way to putting your mind to rest.

 

[James.Balbach]

Thanks very much for the reply

Assistance is sorting the car now, he’s taking it for a run to force a regeneration. He measured the oil and mentioned the number 8 or 9 so said he would recommend getting it booked in for a oil change so I will ask if this can be done as a good will gesture.

thanks again

 

[Bangor Mark]

My interim oil change was covered under the warranty with no questions.

 

[James.Balbach]

Quick update, I rang Land Rover and informed them of the issue and also mentioned the forum and owners similar experiences.

They will do a oil service free of charge due to Oil Dilution.

thanks again everyone