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Today, have reluctantly joined the 'foggy cam owners club';).After all the discussions on the forums, do we finally know why the rear camera is misting up.Is it the seal on the cam itself or as some have said,the inside of the housing getting moisture in.Lastly has anyone done a diy fix for this issue like perhaps filling the void with moisture retardant foam as I doubt if LR will do a 'fix' on mine at it is 2012 vintage.
 

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Today, have reluctantly joined the 'foggy cam owners club';).After all the discussions on the forums, do we finally know why the rear camera is misting up.Is it the seal on the cam itself or as some have said,the inside of the housing getting moisture in.Lastly has anyone done a diy fix for this issue like perhaps filling the void with moisture retardant foam as I doubt if LR will do a 'fix' on mine at it is 2012 vintage.
Hi Marcusdil
I too have been in the foggy camera club recently and had both front and rears replaced under warranty. The rear camera lasted all of a few weeks before going foggy again. The dealer contacted JLR technical who advised to replace the rear camera again along with the trim and camera housing as one part. I had this replaced about a couple of weeks ago now and its been OK however i will say that its my belief that the camera mists up due to atmospherics and not water ingress so much unless the seal is perished. The previous camera fogged up when it was really cold and cleared after the cold snap. I treated it to some water courtesy of my steam cleaner and it was unaffected. I bet it will be OK in the warmer weather and defective in the colder weather.
 

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Thanks for info Viper.I have just replaced the rear camera myself and I have noticed the view gets distorted when the day is damp or raining.So as you say it can not be ingress into the cam itself as presumably with it being brand new it is perfectlty sealed,The fogging is on the outside of the cam and a wipe with the finger clears it,so I think it will be a case of remembering to wipe it before a journey.Probably a bad design as to its positioning,My BM never fogged up in the 4 years I had it.

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Thanks for info Viper.I have just replaced the rear camera myself and I have noticed the view gets distorted when the day is damp or raining.So as you say it can not be ingress into the cam itself as presumably with it being brand new it is perfectlty sealed,The fogging is on the outside of the cam and a wipe with the finger clears it,so I think it will be a case of remembering to wipe it before a journey.Probably a bad design as to its positioning,My BM never fogged up in the 4 years I had it.

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Yes i work at an Audi dealership and they dont have any issues with fogging ... well none that i have ever seen anyway. Good old JLR .. its a very common problem and they just keep using the same cameras instead of redesigning a new one to eliminate the problem. There are probably a "zillion" original cameras still to be used up before they even think about modifying the current one if at all. We see it all the time in Audi as well replacing defective parts with the same part number only for it to fail again somewhere down the line. Not good for a supposedly quality brand is it.
 

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Totally agree...if it wasnt such a great drive and shape,I would have chopped it in long ago.
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Within a few months of us getting ours I noticed the rear cam steamed up, asked the question on the forum to find it was a known fault and LR were changing them under warranty, I also found out about the misaligned tailgate issue so booked it in for both to be fixed, this is how it went in.....

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3 days later after having a new improved camera fitted it came back like this......

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I didn't notice till popping to a shop on way home, putting it in reverse and seeing a thumb print on the lens, needless to say it went straight back
 

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My rear cam sometimes looks to be foggy but when wiped off it is all good again, it seems that the position of this camera seems to collect a lot of dirt & dust or a general coating of road grime quite quickly & needs a wipe over most days to stay clean/clear.
 

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My rear cam sometimes looks to be foggy but when wiped off it is all good again, it seems that the position of this camera seems to collect a lot of dirt & dust or a general coating of road grime quite quickly & needs a wipe over most days to stay clean/clear.
You'd think that but the front camera is always clean.....

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Front and rear view together
 

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You'd think that but the front camera is always clean.....

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Front and rear view together
Hi Doink, I know what you are saying, perhaps at the rear end there is more shelter/ less air blast to wash the lens clean. Mine seem to stay clearer on the front as well. Just a thought.
 

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Yes, today its raining and the cam (fitted yesterday) has rain spots on it and screen view is cloudy.Now I'm thinking there are 2 seperate issues here.Firstly owners are reporting that the cloudyness is caused by condensation actually getting in the cam and on the inside of the lense,in which case no amount of wiping it with a finger is going to remove it.Secondly people are reporting the same issue but once cam is wiped its all ok meaning that it is water/dirt landing on the lense when it is raining This latter issue can not be resolved as it is a design problem such as the cam is located where it is vulnerable to what the weather throws at it.Wondering now whether my original cam was in fact fine and I was presuming it was ingress of condensation on its inside.....
Aaagh all good fun!
 

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ok I also have a bad rear camera... I can agree with both options... however, the camera, especially in the dark is rubbish! I have fitted a cheap £10 camera to my sons car and it is 100 times better, image quality, clarity, especially in the dark. is it worth trying a replacement? I have also noticed that my rear right tail light lens has water inside.. could they be related?

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I've just had the rear camera replaced under warranty. But this got me thinking, can you retrofit the front camera?
 

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Hello, I have just joined the foggy camera club, I'm also new to the forum as this is my first LR after deserting from three decades as a BMW owner (and having had almost all models). Anyway after reading about the fault extensively it seems the real fix is to get a new camera, my Evoque is a 2013 so no warranty, I purchased a new camera on eBay and will be posting results after I replace it, will be a DIY job.
 

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Hi Red Baron. I too deserted BMW after 15 yrs or so. Loved the cars but we live in the sticks and got fed up of run flat tyres hitting pot holes and sliding side ways along the road in the snow and ice 🙄
Hope your camera was a 6 pin and not the expensive 4 pin 😬. I have a 2012 Evoque and the dealer replaced mine at a cost of £360 😰. I’m hoping someone somewhere will make a cheap copy or something before mine goes again 😏
Good luck with the replacement
 

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Today, have reluctantly joined the 'foggy cam owners club';).After all the discussions on the forums, do we finally know why the rear camera is misting up.Is it the seal on the cam itself or as some have said,the inside of the housing getting moisture in.Lastly has anyone done a diy fix for this issue like perhaps filling the void with moisture retardant foam as I doubt if LR will do a 'fix' on mine at it is 2012 vintage.
Not had any issues yet as mine is only 3 lockdown months old, however due to washing it a lot through boredom . Iv noticed the camera housing when touched seems to expel water from it even though rest of car is bone dry? After reading on here about camera problems maybe a simple solution could be something to create a drip spot and prevent water going behind camera? Although I assume many owners have tried various fixes?
 

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Roddy I'd like to think JLR have got on top of this by now, yours being a 2020 car it might have a different camera type/style altogether so fingers crossed

We had ours replaced early 2018 having bought ours in October 2017, I know it was a common fault but don't know if JLR changed the spec or quality but so far so good
 

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Like been said before it’s a common fault ...two versions 4 pin 6 pin one cheaper than other ... but us women drivers can do without them when they fail .... mirrors and beepers 😘
 

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Hi Red Baron. I too deserted BMW after 15 yrs or so. Loved the cars but we live in the sticks and got fed up of run flat tyres hitting pot holes and sliding side ways along the road in the snow and ice 🙄
Hope your camera was a 6 pin and not the expensive 4 pin 😬. I have a 2012 Evoque and the dealer replaced mine at a cost of £360 😰. I’m hoping someone somewhere will make a cheap copy or something before mine goes again 😏
Good luck with the replacement

Hello Sadie and club members! I'm happy to report a successful camera removal & replacement, totally fixed the foggy camera problem. I regret I did not take a video or pictures as I was by myself and at times holding a flashlight while taking down nuts or screws.

I purchased the camera on eBay from a shop in the UK. It's a new, original LR part. Once replaced the camera works like new, crystal clear and sharp colors.


Before doing all of this I researched the issue. If you need to do this, make sure first of all that you know which camera to buy. Mine was the simple 6-pin camera and my cost for the new replacement was about $120 including shipping from the UK. For those cars fitted with the surround camera system, you will need the more expensive 4-pin camera, cost is anywhere from $400-$600.

I watched a video these same folks post in youtube and the job was relatively simple, took me about 30 minutes or less to accomplish. Here's the video on how to remove and replace the 6-pin camera.


Note, some Evoques may have different camera removal procedures, in mine I had to remove the tailgate automatic opening module to gain access to one of the four nuts holding the strip where the camera is mounted, but it was no sweat: the module is on top of everything attached with two Torx screws, loosen them to move the module without even disconnecting it, and remove the nut behind the module, the other three are easily accesible. Carefully pop the rear strip holding the camera and the camera is right there held by a plastic strip. Straight forward job, just like the video shows.

Any questions drop me a line in "Reply" to this thread. Thanks.
 

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Nice post and very informative 😄
 
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Hi Red Baron.Glad you got it sorted. Sounds like a job I can manage next time mine goes then 🙂
 
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