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In my experience, cars were especially prone to stone chips when paints first switched from being solvent-based to water-based about 10-15 years ago. Since then, they have improved markedly. The best way to avoid stone chips is to drop back from the car in front. If you insist on tailgating them, your car will be sand-blasted by whatever it throws up. Keep in mind too that paint hardens over time after production so that this is especially important when the car is new. Manufacturers will tell you paint ex-factory is as hard as it will ever get but my experience is that cars are much more prone to stone chipping in the first 6 months of their lives.


As for these films, I wouldn't bother. They may look fine to start with but then the film begins to lift and the edges and water and dirt work their way in.
 

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I don't believe so, the idea is that the paint is 100% before they are applied and no oxidation of the paintwork takes place.
 

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Thanks guys - very helpful points.


I have looked into this a reasonable amount, but have not actually seen a car with the kit fitted. There are a lot of different companies that provide various kits, with different materials. Paintshield, link above, seem to be the market leader (and most expensive I guess), and offer a 4 year warranty against peeling, yellowing, and scratches. This seems very attarctive if it is genuine.Their gallery certainly showsa whole lot of Ferraris, R8s, etc with the kit fitted.



In addition to stone chips, we have a problem with cats climbing all over the cars and my wife's Civic (which theEvoque is replacing) is covered in tiny scratches. So I wonder if this is a potential answer. I will post back if I hear from the company about a kit for the Evoque, and also the cost. If I ever go to see the company (in Peterborough and near me :) I will take some photos too.
 

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Right....


Just come off the phone with paintshield.



Good news:



1) As soon as the car is released, they will have the kit design either here or in the US. They have 2 Evoques already booked in!!

2) The 4 year warranty covers peeling, yellowing, and ANYTHING getting through the film short of a collision. So if stone chips (or cats!) get through the film, they will replace the film for free.

3) They often do group discounts for clubs.



Bad news:



Prices will not be confirmed until they have seen the car and have done the first one. The following estimates are based on a Freelander size car (the final price will NOT be more than these):



1) Full frontal kit: £1200

2) Complete kit (whole car): £2700



A LOT of money... I wonder how much a full repray by Landrover would cost in comparison!
 

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I assume enough people think it is worth spending this kind of money for them to be in businessbut I don't. I would much rather spend £1150 on the adaptive damping which, reading the reviews, improves the ride and handling of the car than I would spend £1200 on sticky plastic.
The mania for sticking plastic on cars comes from the US where the road surfaces have much more debris on them than ours here and tailgating (get the f... out of my way) is endemic. Here, these companies play to people's neuroses that their Pride and Joy may not always be showroom pristine, never mind that its value is in freefall anyway.



When it comes to resale, nobody is going to pay extra because of the plastic film, they will price the car based on age and condition and, as I said, you can avoid stone chips by dropping back from the car in front.



If I were you, I'd find some Discoveries and look closely at the condition of their paintwork. The Evoque is being made in the same plant from likely the same steel and paint process so theircondition will give you a good indication of what the Evoque will be like. If they are peppered with stone chips, maybe there's a case for front protection though I wouldn't bother.



As for the cats, get their claws clipped...
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£1200 is a lot of money, there are a million stone chip specialists out there who will come to your home and completely erase stone chips for around £30 each and do deals if you have more, personally I'd wait til I got 3 or 4 bad stone chips and call one of these guys out.
But if ur loaded then go for the plastic wrap I guess.
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I have never used or heard of Paint shield, but I always always get my new car done over with Pure guard. It is excellent and keeps the car looking brand spanking new. Costs about £240 to do yourself or £350 dealer done. It is like a polish similar to auto glym, but much better.<div id="myWatcherDiv" style="display:none;">
 

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My advise on cleaning your car?


Hose it down 1st

Warm water in a bucket

Nice looking sponge" must be clean "

Oldschool method add a touch of fairy liquid

Enjoy the suds

Wash off with water viaand anti kinkhose pipe

Use shamoss to wipe offany H20

If you have not waxed in a while then I do encourage to do so

Machine buff off if you want to be posh

Nice n shiney once again



The above should only be undertaking if..1 you are off work on a sunday....2 if the weather is good...3 if you enjoy cleaning your car yourself
 

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I definitely would not use washing up liquid, go to Halfords and buy a decent car wash with wax like Simoniz. To dry the car, use clean old towels reserved for the purpose and wash after every use, and use a chamois to finish off. Very important to keep the bucket just for car use and rinse it to get rid of grit.
 

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You guys want to go to any decent Porsche Forum and seek advice on cleaning a car



You will hear about the "two bucket method" where one bucket is used to fill the sponge with water and the other is used to rinse the sponge through. Hence the grit is retained in one bucket and not the one with clean water.



Seriously though, washing up liquid contains all sorts of detergents that are not kind to car paint.
 

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Forget the sponge. They can scratch the paintwork. Use a cotton mit or washing cloth.


Use a large microfibre towel to dry it off. They leave no marks or scratches,and no bits come off and stick to the car i.e. as a chamois tends to do. It will take approx. 5 minutes to dry off the car and you will not need to ring out the towel until you have finished.
 
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