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I would have no hesitation to use it at 70 mph if my foot-brake had failed,
Me neither
I was taken back by how sharply it worked, I was comparing it to a std pull up handbrake where it would just slow the car down, eventually bringing it to a stop somewhere down the road.
 

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I used them once and was very impressed. Arranged collection of my Evoque and as the dealer didn’t have a spare car arranged a for a brand new P250 from another dealer for me
 

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Much of the reason cars slip through their brakes is because we now have calipers all round, calipers and discs get hot in use and then when the car has stood and the brakes cool it can take enough pressure off the brakes to allow the car to start moving.

I've been there, found my Toyota Celica at the bottom of a hill after a very spirited drive and parking up quickly. Luckily no damage done!
 

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I've been there, found my Toyota Celica at the bottom of a hill after a very spirited drive and parking up quickly. Luckily no damage done!
Snap! Me and the wife went out for a meal locally in our Golf a few years ago. We parked on a slight incline about 80 metres from the main road. We had just started our meal when our neighbour phoned me telling me that the Police were at our house as our car was blocking the High Street. I went out and our car had rolled right down the hill and came to rest at 90° to the traffic when it hit the kerb on the other side of the road. The Police were directing traffic around our car. Luckily, no damage was done to any cars including ours.
 

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With my last few cars being autos and being left in Park the hand brake doesn't really matter. My van on the other hand is manual and I read online a lot of owners were having issues with the hand brake releasing so always leave it in gear now. Just belt and braces stuff.
 

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Get a few random tips/info on the LR Experience days, I remember one of the instructors telling me that the Evoque resets the handbrake after a set period to allow for disc cooling - of course it could be complete BS?
Tip2 - he also said system prevents you from accidently locking keyfob in boot, but beware of keeping key near a mobile phone (eg both in handbag - not a problem for me:)) as phone signal can mask the fob signal and defeat the safegard.
 

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Discussion Starter #27 (Edited)
So by 10 am I had used the call button in the car to report this problem to LRA (it was answered by a nice lady within a few seconds) by 11.30 it was on the truck and I went with it to the dealers to make sure they know all the details and symptoms of the problem and gave them the bits of my osr brake pad in a plastic bag.


They had not got a loan car (All 25 were out, so I said do you have that many breakdowns, which was not answered !), so I had to go back home to my village on the bus, as they could not take me back home .


I got home about 16.20 and waited for the update about the car from Inchcape Derby and never got one, Thanks


So I Phoned LRA again on the above number and told them all the details and they said they would hire a loan car for me and it will be insured and should have full tank of fuel, hope that is being delivered sometime tomorrow.

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Some useful things I found out about using LRA( Land Rover Assistance) .


1. Using the Button in the car (one with a spanner on it, under the flap) there is no need to have the ignition on or engine running.



2. LRA said they will pay for a taxi to get you home or to the dealers to collect your car etc.


3. They will provide a loan car via the dealer or if they do not have one will hire you one, insure it and fuel it.


4. I was never certain that my call button in the car worked so I took the opportunity to ask the LRA rep while I was talking to them this morning, they say if anyone is unsure if there call button in the car is working or not they said they would do a test with anyone who wants to try it.
 

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It's Designed to do that (see the manual) .


I would have no hesitation to use it at 70 mph if my foot-brake had failed, but I would also use my gearbox and engine braking if I had the room.


I use engine braking a lot and sometimes there is no need to use the foot brakes at all, using engine braking in Second gear (if that's what it needs, thirds not bad either) the engine rev's do sometimes go up to 7000rpm, the engine fuel is automatically cut off so you are not wasting fuel or are you damaging the engine.


If your passengers have not experienced engine braking down a steep hill and the engine revs at 7000 rpm the noise level does go up a lot and you have to reassure them sometimes, they are normally surprised what engine braking can do..


The use of a 'Racing Gear Change' does help you to get it in to gear nicely :)


@ colin 4x4


I always leave my cars in 1st gear when parked.


The joys of a manual gearbox.
I would not be changing down gears to slow the car. Use brakes to slow and gears to go. Yes you still get engine braking and in the 2020 Evoque Mhev you also get regenerative braking. Regularly changing down so the revs soar to 7000 will not do your engine or drive train any good even if you use rev matching
 

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2020 Evoque Mhev you also get regenerative braking. Regularly changing down so the revs soar to 7000 will not do your engine or drive train any good even if you use rev matching
See my car spec, it does not have Mhev
It stould read 5000rpm not 7000rpm :confused:
 

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Had a John Cooper Works Mini Cooper Countryman S,6 Speed Manual FWD, Enterprise Hire car delivered this morning, all other prestige cars are Auto's in there pool of cars (Either LRA, Inchcape Derby or Enterprise) , I could drive an auto if I put my mind to it but my wife would not want to try them.
Forgot to put it in 'Service Mode' on the Remote app (on my iPad ) so had two 'Your Car Is Being Stolen' reports


On the Remote app it is still showing the car is parked outside my home, odd


Had no feedback from Inchcape Derby at all.
 

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I won't entertain Inchcape Derby anymore unless its a dire emergency, I'm still adamant they swaped one of my wheels with another then proceeded to tell me one of my tyres was low on tread when I'd not long had the car and all tyres had 5mm on them yet all of a sudden one has 2mm when the rest are fine, then try and charge £650 for rear discs and pads
 

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I'm still adamant they swapped one of my wheels with another then proceeded to tell me one of my tyres was low on tread when I'd not long had the car...
You just reminded me of decades ago, when I bought a new Ford Escort XR3i, and at first service where my never used cigarette lighter (as I'm a non-smoker) was swapped out with an old used one by a mechanic. I did not leave the garage till they got me a new one out of the parts department, grrrh! and left them to find the guilty mechanic.

Seems mechanics still cannot be trusted decades later.
 

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I used to own a Discovery 3 but sold a couple of years ago. Electric parking brake was an issue on that, in that it was prone to seizing up because of its location on the back axle. A local independent L/R dealer offered a handbrake service because it is not covered in standard servicing schedule.As usual with L/R the parts were expensive (approx £800) at the time, so a handbrake service was well worth the extra cost at standard service time.
 

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Got my car back yesterday, spoke to the Mechanic who did the job, he said no one had seen a brake pad smash to pieces, he showed me a photo on his phone of the pad and more than 75% of the surface was missing and they have it boxed up to send to JLR for investigation.


He fitted new Rear Discs and new rear Pads.





My Theory.


Looking at the pieces of brake pad I have and I can see a brown stain on a lot of the pieces maybe 'Rust' !, My theory is that the pad was damaged during the 'factory build' ( maybe someone dropped it while fitting it and thought it was ok and fitted it, but it had fractured the structure of the pad), then over the time Rust from the brake disc had migrated into the pad fractures and the day it got stuck the car had not been used and had been outside in the poring rain for about two weeks, the rust had formed a 'Rust Bond' between the disc and the pad and needed extra turning force of the disc to break that bond and thus broke the pad.
 

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Glad it's sorted, certainly must be a manufacturing/assembly issue that's finally given way when the pads were stuck to the disc.
 

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Lifting the bonnet yesterday I was shocked to find the car must have been covered in a what looks like either Brick dust or Red Mud Dust, because the drainage channels off the windscreen and lots of other area's under the bonnet show signs of this powdery dust film.


Not Impressed :(


This is at Inchcape Derby New joint Jaguar / Land Rover massive building, The build is located next to a recycling centre, aggregates centre, railway sidings and other industrial areas, I have a feeling the there new site has a problem when the wind blows the wrong way that dust is blowing over.


Looking at My alloys they have two long scratches and some small scratches, thanks Inchcape. :(


Also on my alloys there are lots of areas of what looks like 'adhesive'. Thanks again.:( :(


My theory is that when the car is washed the tyres are then 'Tyre Blacked' and I think they put say a paper or card mask over the centre part of the alloys which is held on with say a sticky adhesive to stop the Tyre black going on the alloys, which when the mask is taken off is leaving some adhesive on the alloy, it is more noticeable once this adhesive has got wet eg. rained on then it shows up, I had this all of the six times it's been in and is a pig to get off.
 

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I’d take car back insisting engine is steam clean Dan professionally valeted and scratches put right ... I always take photos before it goes into garage usually on forecourt as I drop off... but it went in on a lorry today ,
 
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